Winter 2003 (11.4)
by Betty Blair
Aliyev - Interviews and Articles
Mr. President. Photo Tribute to Heydar Aliyev (1923-2003)
Of all the interviews I ever had with
the President Heydar Aliyev, that one stands out the most in
my mind took place in August 1997. It was the last leg of his
10-day, 4-city tour in the U.S. - New York, Washington, Houston
and Chicago. There were 60 members in his entourage, including
advisors, select Cabinet and Parliament members, and about 30
security staff, photographers, TV and print media, and me - the
He had promised an interview with Azerbaijan International magazine.
The time had come and I was escorted to the front Presidential
section of the plane. Being a fairly experienced traveler, I
invariably buckle up for the duration of flight. This time, however,
I took my cues from the President who was not using safety straps,
and slid into the booth facing him.
As luck would have it, we soon hit some rough turbulence and
the plane started bouncing around. Trying not to interrupt his
train of thought since we were recording the interview, I groped
blindly in my seat for the safety belt buckles. And yes, the
President saw me. He stopped and smiled, and with his usual wry
twist of humor remarked, "Don't worry, I won't let the plane
go down!" We both laughed. I buckled up anyway.
It was just like him to say something like that - personal, humorous,
apropos - both conscious of his power and the irony of the moment.
But these days which surround Aliyev's funeral (December 15,
2003), it seems the spontaneous outpouring of emotion and sympathy
by millions of Azerbaijanis for the President was encapsulated
in those words that he had joked about a few years earlier -
"Don't worry, I won't let the plane go down!"
It seems most Azerbaijanis felt that way about him - that as
long as Heydar Aliyev was at the helm of power, the ship of nation
would not go down. They valued him as an astute, experienced,
incredibly savvy politician. After all, he had once been among
the most influential leaders of the Soviet Union - that vast
empire that had stretched across 11 time zones. His rank among
the top leaders in the Soviet Politburo had been among those
you could count on one hand.
And though Azerbaijan was one of the smallest republics of the
former Soviet Union, Heydar Aliyev as President always carried
himself with the authority of someone who knew who he was and
where he had come from.
Even his detractors credit him, especially in the early years
(1993-1997) after the collapse of the Soviet Union, for not letting
competing forces and the war in Karabakh, destroy the nation.
For many, Aliyev represented security during those very dark
early years of independence.
He worked hard. No one ever could accuse him of being "a
9 to 6 President". He wasn't ruled by clocks. He was always
I remember our first interview in early 1994. Aliyev was 71 at
the time. It was late - very late, in fact - when we were ushered
in to see him. By the time we finished, it was nearly 2 a.m.,
and I commented about his late schedule. He replied that it had
always been like this for the past 50 years - coming in to work
around 10-11 a.m., taking a single break for dinner around 7
p.m., and then working late into the night - often until 2 or
It may be that I interviewed him more times than any other Western
journalist, especially after Azerbaijan gained its independence.
I had met him dozens of times and had interviewed him on at least
seven occasions. [See AZER.com. Click TOPICS, ALIYEV.] During
our last session, he had told me: "Don't think that I give
interviews so frequently to others".
From the very beginning, we rarely talked about oil or economics
or war - topics that the typical hard-news media always pressed
him about. And, unlike reporters of the Soviet period, I dared
to bring up personal questions. He loved to talk about language
and his efforts to strengthen the use of Azeri. At the same time,
he was quite proud that in the 1980s Time Magazine had observed,
"Heydar Aliyev spoke Russian better than most Russians".
He loved to talk about history, especially the recent history
that he had helped to shape. He loved music, art, beautiful buildings,
and clever, talented people. You always got the idea that he
tried to spend much of his time doing things that he genuinely
liked to do. That he did not let bureaucracy consume him. It
was not beyond him to break protocol and do something spontaneous.
He understood the power of his presence-a handshake, a nod, a
smile, a kiss.
Another interview stands out in my mind-one in 1999. At that
time, people were concerned that since he had undergone heart
surgery two years earlier, there seemed to be no one standing
in the wings groomed to take his place. I pressed him about what
advice he would have for future leaders in regard to foreign
He replied that they should follow the strategy that he had set
forth. Not sure that our international readers would know exactly
what he meant, and not wanting to put words in his mouth, I asked
him to elaborate.
Suddenly, he slammed his fist down on the table - a gesture he
had never used before with me - and replied: "It means you
can't be friends with some countries and enemies with others,
despite the fact that this is the way most countries function.
You have to take into consideration the special interests of
each country. Azerbaijan doesn't want to be enemies with any
country. At the same time, we will not become victim to another
country's policies. We have our own independent policy. As well,
we are developing good relations with Europe and America and
see to benefit from their experiences, while preserving our own
national identity and our own resources. Future leaders must
pursue the policy that I have put in place. If they do, they
will succeed. If not, then Azerbaijan will face enormous tragedy."
And, that was the end of the interview.
Naturally, he was not without his critics and, on numerous occasions,
rightfully so. But all in all, most people acknowledge that HeydarAliyev
was "bigger than life" and a man of gigantic political
stature. No doubt, he will be identified as the Architect of
his Era - encompassing the 30 odd years from 1970 to 2003.
Now, it's up to the youth, to climb upon his shoulders, to identify
the positive things that he has given to this nation - and there
are countless examples - and work tirelessly to build a strong,
vibrant, healthy and prosperous nation.
From Azerbaijan International
(11.4) Winter 2003
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